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     The biblical mapping section content presents material for discussion within the proper creation background of the temple of the heavens that controls the foundation for conversation about the ministry of Christ in atonement and his present intercession at death and judgment. The material on this site is free for public use and always open for congenial discussion, clarificaiton, or correction in conversation opportunities provided. A Thesis and Dissertation with interaction to scholarly conversation are available to evaluate the evidence for plural heavens in a highly probable first-century tabernacle/temple design.
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Revelation Mapping Section 2C


God's Speech About...

The Promise of Christ Before the Tabernacle

of the Eternal-Places Creation

Summary


This section will provide a summary of the biblical mapping topic conversation about the promised of the ministry of the Christ before the tabernacle of the eternal-places creation.

Question(s)

Questions are designed to focus the conversation in the mapping section and either reveal incoherence or knowledge gaps in hearing of God's speach. Each question links to related discussion content into the evaluation of the biblical conversation below.

  • Question: What is the significance of God promising the anointed Christ both "before the foundation of the kosmos" [πρὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου; Eph 1:4; cf. 1 Pet 1:20; Rev 17:8] and "before times of the eternal-places" [πρὸ χρόνων αἰωνίων, 2 Tim 1:9; Titus 1:2]?
  • Question: Who was this promise of Christ intended? Is the benefits of the promise limited only by God's soverign choice to some or to any person who hears the promise and chooses to believe by faith?

Myths

Myths consist of earthly focused philosophical and theological claims, which God has not spoken in his word-speech. These are commonly accepted as warrants among some people to flatten heavenly truth for correspondence with errant [supposed] earthly promises applied by adherents either alone or in a group over other people not in their group [Matt 24:4-12; cf. Col 2:8]. Each listed myth links to related biblical conversation in the material below concerning God's speach about the ability of Christ to bring all things to himself in heaven.

Teaching Myths

  • Myth: The Christ was promised before the beginning of time.
  • Myth: The promise of salvation in Christ at judgment was limited to only select people [the elect, so-called] according to God's soverign choice and people have no ability to accept or reject by free-will the promise after hearing about it.

Related Conversation of God's Speach
through Revelation of his Word

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This section enguages a more indepth biblical evaluation into the proper conversation of the topic.



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