Conversation about...Open Heavens
Subsections
Revelation Mapping Conversation 5
God's Speech About...
The Promise of Christ Before the Tabernacle
of the Eternal-Places Creation
Summary
This conversation provides a summary of the biblical mapping topic conversation about the promised of the ministry of the Christ before the tabernacle of the eternal-places creation.
Related Conversation of God's Speech
through Revelation of his Word
This conversation engages a more in-depth biblical evaluation into the proper conversation about the topic.
Conclusion
This conversation...
Question(s)
Questions are designed to focus the conversation and reveal either incoherence or knowledge gaps in hearing of God's speech. Each question links to related content in the biblical conversation below.
- Question: What is the significance of God promising the anointed Christ both "before the foundation of the kosmos" (πρὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου; Eph 1:4; cf. 1 Pet 1:20; Rev 17:8) and "before times of the eternal-places" (πρὸ χρόνων αἰωνίων, 2 Tim 1:9; Titus 1:2)?
- Question: Who was this promise of Christ intended? Is the benefits of the promise limited only by God's sovereign choice to some or to any person who hears the promise and chooses to believe by faith?
Myths
Myths consist of earthly focused philosophical and theological claims, which God has not spoken in his word-speech. These are commonly accepted as warrants among some people to flatten heavenly truth for correspondence with errant (supposed) earthly promises applied by adherents either alone or in a group over other people not in their group (Matt 24:4-12; cf. Col 2:8). Each listed myth links to related biblical conversation in the material below concerning God's speech about the ability of Christ to bring all things to himself in heaven.
- Myth: The Christ was promised before the beginning of time.
- Myth: The promise of salvation in Christ at judgment was limited to only select people (the elect, so-called) according to God's sovereign choice and people have no ability to accept or reject by free-will the promise after hearing about it.
