Topics of Conversation about Open Heavens
The content presented functions to define the proper creation background of the temple of the heavens that controls the biblical conversation about the ministry of Christ in atonement and his present intercession at death and judgment. The documents on this site are free for public use and always open for congenial discussion, clarificaiton, or correction in conversation opportunities as provided though email contact. A Thesis , Dissertation,and related material with scholar interaction are available to evaluate the evidence for biblical mapping of the plural heavens.
Fourth Dimension of Time in Heaven
In natural science, time (t) is often labeled as the fourth dimension, in addition to the three-dimensional space required to describe observations about an object (x, y, z axis). The observed object must have matter that occupies space (e.g., ball). The fourth dimension of time is required to describe observations of movement in space (e.g., thrown ball). Time only exists if there is motion through space. Everything is in motion. Description of time in observed motion requires at least two objects (e.g., ball travels at 10 miles per hour for 6 seconds). The units of this description are standards of another object’s motion applied to the object under observation.
Standards of space measurement also are determined by agreement on the measure of another object. The standard of 1 mile is a particular distance that is 5280 feet = 1720 yards. It is regulated in the US by the Office of Weights and Measures. The US and Britain agree on this but there is pressure for conversion to the metric system, which has different standards and units. Standard measures of time are determined by agreement on the motion of another object. An hour = 1/24th of a day, which is the time for the earth to rotate one time on its axis. A minute = 1/60th of an hour. A second = 1/60th of a minute. A millisecond = 1/1000th of a second.
The fourth dimension cannot exist independently by itself; it is the product of two objects in motion through space. By definition, there can be no time without relative motion between two objects [one object in motion to set the standard for description of the observed object in motion]. If two objects are in motion, time must exist as a product of that motion. In science, there is no such existence without time, if there is motion in living. “No time” only exists in philosophical thought (e.g., Plato’s Timaeus est. 360 BCE – which considers God without time before creating anything, i.e. no objects in existance for motion).
The formula for motion (velocity) is v = d (distance)/t (time), e.g., ball travels 10 m/hr. Therefore, the formula for the time of an object’s motion can be derived: Vt = d; t (time) = d (miles)/ v (miles/hour); t (hours) = d (miles) x inverse v (hours/miles).
Does the Bible ever really speak of “no time” without this fourth dimension, so-called? No.
Evidence # 1: Revelation 21:12–27
Consider the gates of pearl and motion through them. The gates are a material object in a 1500-mile cubical structure with a described volume of occupied space that provide limits and boundaries to movement in God’s new creation. The nations will travel through the gates and they never close. Therefore, the fourth dimension of time exists because the material spiritual bodies (space #1) of the nations will move(velocity) through the space (space #2) of the pearls (distance). The standards for distance and time are different since the current universe structure no longer exists. There is no sun, stars, or cosmos. The material of the heavens and earth has been recreated to fit the atributes of the perpetual spiritual realm. The fourth dimension exists by new relative standards.
Evidence #2: What about Titus 1:2?
The KJV and NIV translate this text as “...in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.” The NA28 Greek has ἐπʼ ἐλπίδι ζωῆς αἰωνίου, ἣν ἐπηγγείλατο ὁ ἀψευδὴς θεὸς πρὸ χρόνων αἰωνίων (“in hope of eternal-place life, which God, who is free of deceit, promised himself before the times of the eternal-places”). The Greek word with English translation “beginning” is not present in the text. What happened? A closed-heaven, earth-restricted background view by translators influenced them to add the word “beginning” and change meaning to a timeless heaven when Christ was promised, which is impossible scientifically by the definition of time. A proper plural-heavens view of the tabernacle of the heavens background solves the confusion.
Massive religious confusion results from incorrect biblical mapping that is based only on hope for a kingdom on earth. It is the same militant position as the first-century CE, Jewish, Pharisees and Sadducees in the New Testament. Today, the dark creation hope often spiritualizes heaven as non-material, timeless, and only God’s dwelling place. Adherents often are militant during conversation against those with a biblical faith for a material, substance, heavenly hope with time and dwelling with God through Jesus as Christ.